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ÁÂÁ -- Huang C.H ==============================================================================. >From news.csie.nctu.edu.tw!ychsieh Thu Dec 30 17:16:41 1993 Path: news.csie.nctu.edu.tw!ychsieh From: ychsieh@csie.nctu.edu.tw (Aaron) Newsgroups: csie.help,csie.unix Subject: Re: Ãö©ótinªº¤G,¤T¨Æ....(part5) Press "M" set your own config and make sure what is your save directory.... Good luck....... Aaron ==============================================================================. >From news.csie.nctu.edu.tw!cc.nctu.edu.tw!u8022026 Thu Dec 30 17:16:41 1993 Path: news.csie.nctu.edu.tw!cc.nctu.edu.tw!u8022026 From: u8022026@cc.nctu.edu.tw (Huang C.H) Newsgroups: csie.help,csie.unix Subject: Re: Ãö©ótinªº¤G,¤T¨Æ....(part5) ¥H¤U¬O§Úªº tin ªº³]©w,½Ð°Ý¨º¸Ì¶·n×§ï©O?? ÁÂÁÂ! 1. Auto save : ON 2. Editor Offset : OFF 3. Mark saved read :ON 4. Confirm command : ON 5. Draw arrow : OFF 6. Print header :OFF 7. Goto 1st unread : ON 8. Scroll full page: ON 9. Catchup on quit :OFF 10 Thread articles : ON 11 Show only unread: ON 12 Show description:ON 13 Show author : Both 14 Process type : None 15 Sort article by : Date: field (ascending) 16 Save directory : ~/News 17 Mail directory : ~/Mail 18 Printer : /usr/ucb/lpr -- Huang C.H ==============================================================================. >From news.csie.nctu.edu.tw!ydtsay Thu Dec 30 17:16:41 1993 Path: news.csie.nctu.edu.tw!ydtsay From: ydtsay@csie.nctu.edu.tw (Tsay Yuh Dean) Newsgroups: csie.help,csie.unix Subject: Ãö©ótinªº¤G,¤T¨Æ....(part6) °Ý: ¯à¤£¯à¨Ï¥Î·Qnªº¤¤¤å¦W¦r¨Ó post ©O? µª: ¦b post ¤å³¹ªº®ÉÔ, tin ¹w³]ªº§@ªÌ©m¦W¬O±zªº finger name, ¥i¬O¥Ñ©ó "chfn" ¨Ã¤£¯à¨Ï¥Î¤¤¤å, ©Ò¥H¦pªG·Qn¥Î¤¤¤å¦W¦r¨Ó post ®É, n¥Î©³¤Uªº¤èªk: % setenv NAME ****(±z·Qnªº¤¤¤å¦W) ¦pªGµLªk¿é¤J¤¤¤å, ½Ð¦b°õ¦æ¦¹©R¥O¤§«e, ¥ý°õ¦æ: % setenv LC_CTYPE iso_8859_1 °Ý: ¦b "tin" ¤¤¦p¦ó³]©w¦Û¤vªº reply email address? µª: 1. ¦b¤å³¹ªº«e±¥[¤W³o¤@¦æ: Reply-To: your email address 2. ¦b "~/.tin" ªº¥Ø¿ý¤º³y "replyto" ³oÓÀÉ®×, µM«á¦b "replyto" ¤¤¥[¶i¦Û¤vªº email address. °Ý: §Ú¤µ¤Ñ§Q¥Î×§ï Newsgroups ªº¤è¦¡ crosspost ¤@½g¤å³¹, ¦ý¬O«oµLªk ¨q¥X¨Ó (§Q¥Î§O¤Hªº±b¸¹¬Ý News ¥ç¬Ý¤£¥X), ¤£ª¾¬O¦óì¬G? ps: §Úªº Newsgroups: cp80,csie.cp81,csie.cp82,csie.announce µª: ¬Y¨Ç group ³]¥ß®É, ¸Ó group ªº«Ø¥ßªÌ§Æ±æ³oÓ group ¤£n¦³¤Ó¦hªºÂøµ, ¤ñ¦p»¡¹³ "§Ú¬O²Ä¤@...", "´ú¸Õ¤@¤U"... µ¥¤§Ãþªº¤å³¹¥X²{¦b³oÓ group, ©ó¬O´N§â³oÓ group ªºÄݩʳ]¬° "moderate", ¤§«á¦pªG±z¦b³oÓ group post ¤å³¹®É, ±zªº¤å³¹±N·|¥ý email µ¹³oÓ group ªº "moderator", ¥Ñ¥L¨Ó¨M©w ¬O§_±N±zªº¤å³¹©ñ¦Ü³oÓ group. ¥Ñ©ó "csie.announce" ³oÓ group ªºÄÝ©Ê ¬° "moderate", ¦b moderator ÁÙ¨S§â¥¦ re-post ¥X¨Ó¥H«e, ±z±N·|¼È®É¬Ý ¤£¨ì±zªº¤å³¹. ============================================================================== µo«H¤H: skhuang@ccsun24 (skhuang), «H°Ï: Unix ¼Ð ÃD: ¦p¦ó¦b tin ¤¤¨Ï¥Î¤¤¤åªº¼ÐÃD µo«H¯¸: ¥æ¤j¸ê¤u¤ÑÀs·s»DªÀ (Sep 17 08:25:34 1993) Âà«H¯¸: dragon cis_nctu Åwªï¤j®a¨Ó½ðÀ] (SYSOP@whitman) wrote: If you only want to input Chinese Subject, try to add -DHAVE_SETLOCALE for CFLAGS in Makefile. Before run tin, for SunOS, setenv LC_CTYPE iso_8859_1 for HP-UX, setenv LC_CTYPE chinese-t.big5 for SGI IRIX 4.X, setenv LC_CTYPE english.iso88591 I am not sure if Linux has international language support. Net-BSD can't work by this way. ==============================================================================. -- ¬õ ¹Ð ¦³ ·R ùúùÞùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùÞùû ùàùý ¬ü ÄR ªº ¹Ú ùøùø ùø ¯d ¤U ¬ü ÄR ªº ¼~ ¶Ë ùøùø ùàùû ù ¤H ¶¡ ¤Ñ ¤W ¡N ¥N ¥N ¬Û ¶Ç ùøùø ùüùäùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùäùý